Oppo QOTD: What is your hottest take?

"dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford" (dtg11) 09/27/2018 at 11:43 • Filed to: None

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It’s all in the title, I want to know your hottest take.

For me, I think the Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet is a wonderful vehicle and I’m sad they don’t make it. Yes it’s slow, ugly, and impractical but I like it.

benjrblant > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 11:47

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Did the mods pay you to post this so they can ban a bunch of people today?

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 11:50

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i would just like to say your hot take isnt a hot take

its just a wrong o pinion

Dusty Ventures > benjrblant 09/27/2018 at 11:51

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boredalways > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 11:52

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The Nissan Murano Crosscabriolet is perfect for the 55+ crowd when they find it uncomfortable to jump down into your Chrysler Sebring convertible!

Arrivederci > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 11:53

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In daily driving, I don’t miss having a manual transmission one bit.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 09/27/2018 at 11:55

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course.. i say that as someone that would dd one of these in a heartbeat

For Sweden > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 11:55

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That Mack is the best automotive journalist in the game

For Sweden > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 09/27/2018 at 11:56

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You could live with Doug every day?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 11:56

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This may just be the mildest take, but on a Performance/Thrills per Dollar basis cars are no match for motorcycles, up to a certain price point. I can get Supercar (Hypercar?)-beating performance of <3 seconds 0-60 for $10,000 or less. Thought it might be a good reminder for people how cheap it is to go fast, and you don’t need a car for that.

But then I could die, like literally anytime.

Cash Rewards > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 11:56

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Not to take the heat from your take, but I agree. It's a vehicle different from any other, and Nissan should be applauded for going so far out of the box. Whenever I see someone with the top down at the grocery store, I think "good for you". If you were a kid, this would be the car you'd want your parents to have.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > benjrblant 09/27/2018 at 11:57

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I can neither confirm nor  deny any specific action without the Secretary’s approval.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > For Sweden 09/27/2018 at 11:57

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eh.... i could probably live with him for 3 days..... then i’d likely want to strangle him...

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 09/27/2018 at 11:58

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hot takes are mostly just unpopular opinions

so in that I’d also like to  say that the Ferrari 458 is a horribly ugly car

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > boredalways 09/27/2018 at 11:58

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exactly, those Sebrings can be difficult once you’re on your second hip replacement surgery 

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 11:59

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Chrome torq thrusts are a cancer upon the classic car scene. They should be banned outright.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 11:59

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hmmm.... i think i agree with you on that one

Arrivederci > For Sweden 09/27/2018 at 12:00

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I’d sooner off myself.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/27/2018 at 12:00

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oh absolutely, performance wise motorcycles are far superior to cars. There’s just the whole lack of interior and possibility of death that makes them less popular

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:02

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But the new hip will allow you to get into a corvette.

CobraJoe > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:02

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I hate turbos.

And AWD.

I’d prefer a fun and slightly underpowered FWD manual car to a powerful turbo AWD manual any day. 

Future next gen S2000 owner > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:03

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Cars from the 1960's are objectively garbage.

Still would sell a kidney to put this specimen in my garage.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:03

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I like the CrossCab. and the prequels. And Jar Jar.

Yeah I’m so getting shot today. 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:04

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Only about 10% of cars, trucks, and suvs need to have AWD or 4WD. It’s all for show, features, and sales pitches.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 09/27/2018 at 12:05

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THIS is a hot take.

Good luck on surviving, your chances are looking slim

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:06

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The EB mustang is better than the GT

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Future next gen S2000 owner 09/27/2018 at 12:06

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I agree. Awful build quality, bad materials, slow, atrocious handling, etc

But they (generally) look really good

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 12:06

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so you’re saying you’d rather have a TSX?

So Shiney. So Chrome! So Frunky > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:07

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The Chev y Traverse is less cool than a mini-van.

You can think different but my distaste for the Traverse is unreasonable.

Future next gen S2000 owner > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/27/2018 at 12:08

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That’s why I think I like my bike so much. It takes so much more effort and skill to drive a motorcycle fast or even quickly on a mountain road than a car. Low siding into a mountain or off a cliff quickly limits how far people will push.

It makes being fast so much more rewarding when the consequences of getting it wrong are so much more severe.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:09

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That there is no such thing as a bad car. All cars are great no matter how shitty they are or no matter how objectively good they are. Every car deserves a place in this world and I will have a smile driving each and every one of them. 

Future next gen S2000 owner > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:11

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I used to like them but I don’t really anymore, outside of a select few examples. I’ve lately been really drawn to the pre-war stuff. Right after they moved from a box with a doghouse for the engine into the precursor of cars we see today. Some just get it sooooo right.

CobraJoe > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:12

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Actually... yes. (Though I’d go hatch back over sedan if I had the option, and I’d go RWD over FWD if it was available. )

Though I was thinking of my old Protege5 when I typed that out, it was far more fun than the Legacy GT I owned after it.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Future next gen S2000 owner 09/27/2018 at 12:12

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mmmmmmmm

Nibby > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:13

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hottest take?

deez nuts

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > So Shiney. So Chrome! So Frunky 09/27/2018 at 12:14

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It looks like a minivan but is less practical and costs more.

Future next gen S2000 owner > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:14

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RIGHT!?!?!

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 09/27/2018 at 12:15

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I dont like sand.  I t’s coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere--not like you. You’re soft and smooth.

CobraJoe > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/27/2018 at 12:15

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Motorcycles are faster, and absolutely faster for the price, but I don’t find them fun. I feel like part of the machine in a car, but on a bike I feel like I’m just hanging on and trying not to die .

AestheticsInMotion > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:16

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You didn’t specify a particular catagory so....

I think Chris Tucker is the most annoying, talentless “actor” to ever live. That goes triple for his “stand-up comedy” routines.

So Shiney. So Chrome! So Frunky > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:16

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It’s also what you end up in when you wander into a Chevy dealer and say you need 3 rows. In white and FWD only. I t’s the Cam ry of American CUV’s

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Future next gen S2000 owner 09/27/2018 at 12:16

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so graceful and classy yet imposing and bold

CobraJoe > Future next gen S2000 owner 09/27/2018 at 12:16

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Cars from the 1960's are objectively garbage.

But garbage can be so much fun. 

Wacko > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:16

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CVTs are the best Automatic transmission.

Wacko > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 12:19

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i had my protege5 from 2003 to 2010, then got a 2010 awd 6speed SX4.

The SX4 was better in every way possible than the protege5. The protege5 was good new, then rust, gremlins, eating lights, tires, wiper motors, and did i mention rust, rust and rust!

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 12:21

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ive always seen bikes as things that need to be tamed and mastered (kinda like horses but better and less tasty) being in control of the thing is a good part of the fun for me

course.... im also the kind of idiot that has a tankslapper and then spends the next 30 minutes with a big ole grin on his face.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:24

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https://oppositelock.kinja.com/oppofession-time-1793078718

Also, we need more stuff like the Chevy SSR.

Pickup_man > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:24

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Tan is the worst interior color (tan accents may be acceptable) followed closely by maroon. Black and grey are actually good interior colors.

The 10th gen F-150 is a good looking truck.

The Chevy Beretta is a cool car. 

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 12:25

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I only slightly agree with you...I don’t have any animosity towards them but I will take an SS/GTO  over an STI/RS any day of the week.  

fhrblig > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:25

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Crossovers are fine. They drive fine, they work fine. I’d rather have the roads filled with those instead of Expeditions and Suburbans and Excursions, like in the late 90s and the 2000s.

Future next gen S2000 owner > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:26

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There is something to  them that a 1970 Chevelle can’t touch. They w ere big without trying to be big just to be big. It’s like they had big stuff and wanted to make the smallest car possible. A bit of the streamlined influence of the day. It all creates a few years with certain makes where the cars turned out amazing.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Future next gen S2000 owner 09/27/2018 at 12:26

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Beautiful garbage, but yes, still garbage

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Future next gen S2000 owner 09/27/2018 at 12:27

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Seriously, some pre-war stuff just has ridiculous presence

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 09/27/2018 at 12:32

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CobraJoe > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 09/27/2018 at 12:32

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ive always seen bikes as things that need to be tamed and mastered (kinda like horses but better and less tasty) being in control of the thing is a good part of the fun for me

I absolutely love that feeling, but inside a car instead. Taming the beast and making it dance is a feeling that can’t be matched for me. 

On a bike though, I just always feel like it’s trying to dump me off at all times, and the cost of loosing traction is a lot higher for a bike. 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Wacko 09/27/2018 at 12:34

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Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:34

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Don’t tell me the odds. 

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 09/27/2018 at 12:35

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I know I’m soft and smooth. Thanks bae. 

Wacko > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/27/2018 at 12:35

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i said best auto, manual is still the best.  but regular automatic can suck a dick.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Wacko 09/27/2018 at 12:37

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I understood. My reaction still stands.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 12:39

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f air dinkum :)

having walked away from a couple crashes on bikes.... i really cant argue there (i dont need to bother buying lottery tickets.. pretty sure ive used up all my luck)

CobraJoe > Wacko 09/27/2018 at 12:41

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The Protege5 wasn’t a quality vehicle, nearly impossible to repair or modify, and really quite slow, but damn it was fun to drive.

Compared to the Protege, the LGT was sluggish (in throttle response, in steering response, in braking), though once the LGT got on boost it was massively faster.

That made me realize that sharp responses to input are more fun to me than higher speeds, and spinning tires are more fun than unbreakable grip. 

I’ve never driven an SX4, but I’d be willing to give one a try. 

Wacko > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/27/2018 at 12:41

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as an owner of 3 CVTs mine still stands too.

2014 pathfinder -

2007 yamaha venture mp (snowmobile)

2011 Kawasaki Teryx 750

interstate366, now In The Industry > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:42

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I’m not saying it again.

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:43

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The Mini Cooper is an overpriced go-kart

LastFirstMI is my name > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 12:45

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“I like those”

- my youngest child, who has been sent to his evil aunt and uncle, and  now sleeps under the stairs in the basement . We do not speak of The-car-that-must-not-be-named.

Wacko > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 12:46

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the mp5 had 130hp and 130 torque.

so really underpowered and slow yes, but it had great handling. Felt solid

The SX4 has 150hp and well built, even overbuilt.  land of plastics interior, but was comfy and fun.  I was the funnest car i ever had in the snow.

CobraJoe > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 09/27/2018 at 12:47

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Yeah, my luck stinks. I try to test it as little as possible.

But maybe I’d like bikes more if I was a bit smaller. 6'2" and 250lbs is a bit big to fit on any of the motorcycles that actually interest me.

CobraJoe > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/27/2018 at 12:48

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No argument here.  V8/manual/RWD is by far my favorite combination.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 12:51

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im about the same size as you... the last bike i wrecked was a suzuki bandit 600

good comfy bike that

i looked pretty silly on me old superdream 250 tho

Just Jeepin' > Future next gen S2000 owner 09/27/2018 at 12:51

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It makes being fast so much more rewarding when the consequences of getting it wrong are so much more severe.

Or get it right and someone else in a 2 ton deathmachine still kills you.

CobraJoe > Wacko 09/27/2018 at 12:55

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I was the funnest car i ever had in the snow.

That’s one of my biggest problems with AWD, they’re only fun when traction is limited, and that doesn’t happen often enough in my area.

But I’ll give an SX4 a fair shake if I ever get the chance. 

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 09/27/2018 at 12:55

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I’m fine with that. 

Future next gen S2000 owner > Just Jeepin' 09/27/2018 at 12:56

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Worth it.

CobraJoe > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 09/27/2018 at 12:59

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The only bike I ever owned was a ‘79 Honda CX500. Brilliantly designed bike, amazing engine, but I rode it with my shins against the cylinder heads (Thankfully it was water cooled) . I sold it after I realized that I only put 1000 miles on it in 2 years.

I still dream of getting a 70s trail bike for some off road riding, but I haven’t done much to accomplish that dream yet. 

Under_Score > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 13:02

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Dealer badging isn’t bad. I purposely keep my sticker and plate frame on my car.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 13:03

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lol plenty time yet :)

i may get a proper motocross bike for funsies some day

doubt i’ll be riding on the road again anytime soon tho... least on a bike of my own

i’ll make up for that by buying a silly car :)

Wacko > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 13:04

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well then the SX4 had this button too

basically meant, FWD/normal AWD 90front 10rear/ and 50/50

Saracen > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 13:04

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The new Porsche boxer four makes the 718 a better daily driver, and it sounds pretty good.

I was really tempted by a Lava Orange GTS recently after my test drive..

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 13:13

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Maybe it’s because I wasn’t born in the US and didn’t grow up in a car culture for my childhood, cause I don’t think the classic car designs from the 20th Century are all that gorgeous. A few look pretty great, others look interesting, and most of them just seem a bit tired.

But I’ve always preferred angular designs over bubble designs, and I don’t like chrome.

And there’s only one reason to like the Crosscabriolet - it makes it extremely easy to determine who to stay away from in traffic. 

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 09/27/2018 at 13:18

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for the pr ice of 25 cents, i got a brand new Farscythe with a BUMPER TO BUMPER warranty... thats right, a BUMPER TO BUMPER WARRANTY

Cash Rewards > AestheticsInMotion 09/27/2018 at 13:18

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But it works in 5th element

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner 09/27/2018 at 13:19

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no need for a warranty..... with me you want 3rd party insurance

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 09/27/2018 at 13:37

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But youabian puma

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Wacko 09/27/2018 at 13:45

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CVT’s are fine in snowmobiles, they generally make power high up. When you pin it, the RPM’s shoot high up.

Tekamul > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 13:51

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Never Kia/Hyundai. Until the day I die.

It’s not about being Korean, it’s about the terrible trash the foi sted upon low income people in the 90s that economically crippled many people who were already at the low end of the food chain

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 14:09

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Nissan Skylines aren’t as special as all the fanbois make them out to be.

Last time I posted this opinion the post had 100+ replies

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 14:09

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I understand this, but I like both. FWDs are more fun in the city, and on drive pavement but I’ll take AWD on dirt and snow every time . I don’t need a huge amount of power tho. My Glanant VR-4 only made a bit over 200hp and it was plenty of fun. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > CobraJoe 09/27/2018 at 14:10

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I think part of the problem there is t he size of the car. The Legacy is huge compared to a Protege. I honelty belive that smaller car are inherently more fun. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > boredalways 09/27/2018 at 14:12

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the obvious solution here is a lifted dodge Challenger convertible .

Tapas > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 14:13

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I like good automatics and pdk.

If at all I am in the market for a modern  Porsche or sports car, I will get one without a manual.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Arrivederci 09/27/2018 at 14:13

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heathen  

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 09/27/2018 at 14:14

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also anything bigger than a 15 inch wheel on cars made before 2000. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 09/27/2018 at 14:16

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as the owner of an X- drive car.

you’re absolutely right. kinda. idk I cant make up my mind. I like the confidence  AWD gives, but I also didn’t miss it when my car was broken and became RWD.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 09/27/2018 at 14:24

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This is valid. My wife’s Cavalier was a hateful, vile car, but dur ing the 2 months I had to daily drive it I grew to like it because the soft suspension and turd if an engine made logging the hell out of it kinda fun.

A lso it served my wife for 6 years and 70,000 miles , we replaced it because the rocker panels fall off, but i still see it driving around town faithfully working for some one else who couldn’t afford anything else.  

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 14:25

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Initial D isn’t very good.

CobraJoe > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 09/27/2018 at 14:53

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My LGT was an ‘05, and it wasn’t that much larger than a P5. Granted 600 pounds heavier and 16in longer isn’t a tiny change, but AWD systems add weight.

Smaller, lighter cars are a great recipe for fun, but it’s not a requirement.

And you’re right that AWD is fun on loose surfaces, but so is RWD and FWD to a similar extent , and I rarely drive on snow or gravel anymore.

Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW! > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 14:57

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What if the Hokey Pokey ISN'T what it's all about?

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 15:07

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I’ll go further. Every Ferrari since the 328  is a horribly ugly car. With one or two exceptions which nearly make it to mediocrity. 

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > Arrivederci 09/27/2018 at 15:10

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I think that till every so often I have to DD the 86 for some reason. Then I think “hmm, this is fun. I’ve been missing this”. Wears off after a few days though, and I start getting pissy about clutches and traffic jams. 

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/27/2018 at 15:23

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Any vehicle with a bumper height greater than a standard car should be restricted to 50mph. That way only people with a genuine need for off-road capability would pay the price of using them, and everyone would be safer.